Mr. Jenner. When was this—this 3 weeks other time?

Mr. Tobias. No; that was after he moved in, and my landlady is Czechoslovakian.

Mr. Jenner. Your landlady is Czechoslovakian?

Mr. Tobias. My landlady is Czechoslovakian herself, and so one day when Marion was over at the house, Mrs. Oswald was in there—she had come in there and sat down.

Mr. Jenner. This was an occasion when Marina, or do you mean the landlady, Marion came in?

Mr. Tobias. I say Mrs. Jurek was there.

Mr. Jenner. Mrs. Jurek was in your apartment?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; she came to collect the rent and Mrs. Oswald was in there.

Mr. Jenner. She was visiting?

Mr. Tobias. And my wife says. "Mrs. Jurek, Mrs. Oswald is Czechoslovakian." Mrs. Jurek says, "All right, speak something. I'm Czech too." She says, "No, we're not Czech, we're Russian, but my husband doesn't want us to say that because people will be mean to us."