Mr. Rodriguez. I remember him being arrested, but I don't remember—I remember when Carlos Bringuier was arrested, but—I was on the street and I saw Carlos. I saw Carlos Bringuier talking to the policeman at the time that he was arrested, but I didn't see him get into the police car because I took off. I left because I thought I might be following the same path.
Mr. Liebeler. Were you walking when you saw Carlos arrested?
Mr. Rodriguez. I was in a car passing in the street when I saw Carlos talking with the police.
Mr. Liebeler. Who was with you in the car?
Mr. Rodriguez. Orest Pena had driven me to the doctor, and this is how we happened to be in the car together when we passed going to the Habana Bar when we saw Carlos.
Mr. Liebeler. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Liebeler. Did Orest see Bringuier that day?
Mr. Rodriguez. I don't know whether Orest saw him or not. Orest was doing the driving. I am not sure whether he saw him or not.
Mr. Liebeler. Was Oswald in the bar before or after you saw Carlos in the street with the policeman?