Mr. Pena. Oh, when I went to Berlin; I went for—when I was in Berlin, I took a tour for 4 hours to East Berlin.
Mr. Liebeler. On December 5, 1963, you were interviewed by two agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Mr. Steinmeyer and Mr. Logan. Do you remember that?
Mr. Pena. I have been interviewed by the FBI so many times I don't remember. Something. But it might be true. You tell me about what to refresh my mind, and I can tell you about whether that is true or not.
Mr. Liebeler. Well, let me come back to that in just a moment. Do you remember being interviewed by two FBI agents on June 9, 1964, when you and Mr. Tamberella went to the FBI office here in New Orleans?
Mr. Pena. That's about 2 weeks ago?
Mr. Liebeler. Yes.
Mr. Pena. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember generally what you told them at that time?
Mr. Pena. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us?