Mr. Pena. I don't know because, as I told you before, I didn't used to get the names until my lawyer told me, "Look! Every time you talk to one of those people, you better get the name and write it down so you know who you are talking about."
Mr. Liebeler. You wanted to tell me something about the FBI in New Orleans. Why don't you do that now.
Mr. Pena. You see, I started—like I told you, when that organization moved in New Orleans——
Mr. Liebeler. This is the anti-Castro organization?
Mr. Pena. Yes. So I went down there and joined the organization. In 1959 when I went to Cuba, my mother told me how everything was going; so she says, "He is even worse than Batista." So when I came back, I joined the organization a little bit after that, the organization here in New Orleans. So I went and joined them and started working for the organization collecting money at my place of business and giving my own money for many things to the organization, you know, a dollar, two dollars. Then De Brueys came to the organization. Maybe—I don't know if sent by the Government or how, but he went to the organization.
Mr. Liebeler. He joined it?
Mr. Pena. No; he didn't join it, but he was sticking with the organization very, very close.
Mr. Liebeler. They knew he was an FBI agent?
Mr. Pena. Yes; we knew he was an FBI agent. So from time to time he called me at my place. He went to my place and was asking me about this guy and that guy, different people here in New Orleans. So I told him what I thought about the men. I tell you that and then you find out if I am right or if I am wrong. I never did ask if I was right or wrong. I told him about people that I am for sure they are for Castro here in New Orleans. So one way or the other, he was interfering with me somehow, Mr. De Brueys, so——
Mr. Liebeler. De Brueys was interfering with you?