Mr. Pena. No; I can't tell you that.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any information that this was a pro-Castro or a Castro plot to assassinate President Kennedy?
Mr. Pena. No; I can't say that.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you know whether anybody else in New Orleans has any information like that?
Mr. Pena. No; I can't say that.
Mr. Liebeler. What about Bringuier?
Mr. Pena. What I think about Bringuier? He is just trying to get big name, collecting big name to make himself big when he come back to Cuba. Be one of the bosses. That's my point of view. I told you he don't like the United States and what I told you about; you can bring him here and tell him that Orest Pena told you that. I will stand a lie-detector test and invite him to take one, and I invite De Brueys, too, to ask De Brueys if that's true or not true he went to my place and tried to intimidate me. If he say no, I take a lie-detector test and he take a lie-detector test and maybe you will find one Communist in the FBI.
Mr. Liebeler. You think that Bringuier is using his association with Oswald to give himself a big name in connection with that?
Mr. Pena. That's what it is.
Mr. Liebeler. As far as you know, Bringuier doesn't have any evidence that there was a pro-Castro plot to assassinate the President.