Mr. Liebeler. You were not there at the time this happened?

Mr. Pena. No; I wasn't there.

Mr. Liebeler (handing picture to witness). I show you a picture which has been marked "Garner Exhibit No. 1," and ask you if you recognize that man.

Mr. Pena. I know him from the newspapers, but I have never seen him in person.

(Discussion between witness and interpreter.)

Mr. Logan. He knows. Just can't get it out right now. He doesn't remember his name. He knows his face because he has seen it in a lot of photographs and pictures in the newspaper. Never saw him in person, but he knows the photograph of the man from pictures on TV and newspapers.

Mr. Liebeler. And you know him as the man who assassinated President Kennedy?

Mr. Pena. Yes; I do. I don't right at this second remember his name.

Mr. Liebeler. Oswald?

Mr. Pena. Oswald is the man.