Mrs. Odio. Never was used except to introduce me, and the time when they left. They did not refer to him as Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler. But they did in fact, introduce him as Leon Oswald?
Mrs. Odio. And I shook hands with him.
Mr. Liebeler. That is also what you told Agent Hosty when he interviewed you on December 18, 1963, and that is indicated in his report?
Mrs. Odio. Oh, yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, a report that we have from Agent Hosty indicates that when you told him about Leopoldo's telephone call to you the following day, that you told Agent Hosty that Leopoldo told you he was not going to have anything more to do with Leon Oswald since Leon was considered to be loco?
Mrs. Odio. That's right. He used two tactics with me, and this I have analyzed. He wanted me to introduce this man. He thought that I had something to do with the underground, with the big operation, and I could get men into Cuba. That is what he thought, which is not true.
When I had no reaction to the American, he thought that he would mention that the man was loco and out of his mind and would be the kind of man that could do anything like getting underground in Cuba, like killing Castro. He repeated several times he was an expert shotman. And he said, "We probably won't have anything to do with him. He is kind of loco."
When he mentioned the fact that we should have killed President Kennedy—and this I recall in my conversation—he was trying to play it safe. If I liked him, then he would go along with me, but if I didn't like him, he was kind of retreating to see what my reaction was. It was cleverly done.
Mr. Liebeler. So he actually played both sides of the fence?