Mr. Liebeler. Not as big as the man in Exhibit No. 237?

Mrs. Odio. That's right.

Mr. Liebeler. Is that the man in Exhibit No. 237 that had a pushed back spot on his head?

Mrs. Odio. It was different. In the middle of his head it was thick, and it looked like he didn't have any hair, and the other side, I didn't notice that.

Mr. Liebeler. This was the taller man; is that right? The one known as Leopoldo?

Mrs. Odio. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. About how much did the taller man weigh, could you guess?

Mrs. Odio. He was thin—about 165 pounds.

Mr. Liebeler. How tall was he, about?

Mrs. Odio. He was about 3½ inches, almost 4 inches taller than I was. Excuse me, he couldn't have. Maybe it was just in the position he was standing. I know that made him look taller, and I had no heels on at the time, so he must have been 6 feet; yes.