Mr. Liebeler. So it would have been possible for him to have sat in that porch and you couldn't see him very well from the street?

Mr. Rogers. He wouldn't discuss anything on the porch. He would go in the house.

Mr. Liebeler. Would it have been possible to sit in that porch and drop the blinds so that people couldn't see you?

Mr. Rogers. It could be possible. I don't know. I never—I seen him sitting down there and go in and out, coming in and out.

Mr. Liebeler. We talked to you previously out at the apartment, and my recollection is that you told us that some time in September, I believe, that a station wagon came and picked up Mrs. Oswald.

Mr. Rogers. That was the time he left town.

Mr. Liebeler. Tell us about that.

Mr. Rogers. The station wagon was visible. I called my wife. I said "Well, he must be leaving." They were packing all the things. Probably left the next night or sometime like I told you, the following night after. Had the two things in his hand and goggles on like he was running out of there. I don't know what he was doing.

Mr. Liebeler. Tell us about those goggles. Were they something like sunglasses? Describe them.

Mr. Rogers. I don't know. I couldn't say that.