Mr. Pic. He mentioned her, that he had seen her or been in touch with her when he first came back, maybe even stayed with her for a week or two when he first came back, I don't remember. My wife later told me that Marina couldn't get along with my mother.
Mr. Jenner. Marina told your wife that she couldn't get along with your mother?
Mr. Pic. No, sir; I think it was Vada told my wife that Marina couldn't. I think she rather observed this rather than being told by Marina.
Mr. Jenner. I see.
Mr. Pic. That the two of them, not that they didn't get along, but that Marina disliked her.
Mr. Jenner. Is that the last time you saw your brother Lee?
Mr. Pic. Well, sir, in the course of that Thanksgiving Day, my brother Robert offered to drive him back to the bus station. Lee made a phone call and it was my understanding that the people that he phoned were of Russian descent, and that Marina often visited with them or talked with them, so she could talk in her own native tongue, and that their boy, who was attending, I believe, the University of Oklahoma——
Mr. Jenner. Paul Gregory?
Mr. Pic. Sir, I don't remember his name at all, because I was mad at the time I was introduced to him.
Mr. Jenner. Introduced to whom?