Mr. Pic. Yes, sir; this is the only thing she could gather from Marina flashing her wedding ring and talking about this. The four of us were present, Robert, myself, and the two wives. But this was done over coffee.

Mr. Jenner. This was after Lee and Marina had left?

Mr. Pic. Yes, sir; this was after they had left.

Mr. Jenner. What did Robert say on that subject, if anything?

Mr. Pic. Nothing. That he didn't think she had been married before.

Mr. Jenner. Did you visit your brother Robert, and did he visit you subsequent to that occasion on Thanksgiving up to but not including November 22, 1963?

Mr. Pic. A couple or 3 days prior to Christmas of 1962, Robert and his family returned the visit to our home in San Antonio, sir. I asked Robert this time if he had seen or heard from Lee since we had last seen him and he told me, no.

Mr. Jenner. Was there any comment on that subject that he had not heard from Lee up to that time?

Mr. Pic. It was really only a matter of 3 or 4 weeks at the most, sir.

Mr. Jenner. So it didn't occasion any surprise on your part?