Mr. Pic. I think the idea of driving came up, the talk about automobiles. I also think that he made the statement——
Mr. Jenner. When you say that is your present recollection?
Mr. Pic. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. All right.
Mr. Pic. I also think that he made the statement that he——
Mr. Jenner. Here, again, you mean to the best of your recollection?
Mr. Pic. Yes, sir; to the best of my knowledge, that he made the statement he wasn't driving because of this dishonorable discharge he received. He was unable to obtain a driver's license. Then he told me he was attempting to get this changed, and he had written several letters to the Secretary of the Navy about getting it changed.
Mr. Jenner. Did he mention the then Governor Connally in that connection?
Mr. Pic. I believe he did, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Governor Connally was not then Secretary of the Navy. Did he express any resentment toward Governor Connally?