Mr. Jenner. Oh, yes.

Mr. Thornley. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever discuss with Oswald his degree of proficiency in the use of the rifle?

Mr. Thornley. Not to the best of my knowledge.

Mr. Jenner. Did you have any impressions that you gathered in that respect while you were with him at El Toro?

Mr. Thornley. None whatsoever. Had somebody asked me to guess about Oswald, I would have said, well, he probably didn't qualify, just because that was the type of guy he was, but that is all.

Mr. Jenner. You would never have expected him to have been a sharpshooter, for example?

Mr. Thornley. It wouldn't have greatly surprised me if he was and it wouldn't have greatly surprised me if he wasn't. This is something very difficult: to look at a man and tell, at least it is very difficult for me. I have seen some drill instructors who could do it. But to tell whether he is going to be an expert or a sharpshooter, marksman, I am not qualified.

Mr. Jenner. While you were stationed with him at El Toro, did you ever go off base with him?

Mr. Thornley. No.