Mr. Jenner. Were you present at any times when you were at El Toro when the lectures occurred when, at that time Oswald raised his hand and engaged in dissertation?

Mr. Thornley. I might have been but I don't recall it if I was. I recall being present at several lectures at El Toro, and it just might have happened. It was the kind of thing Oswald would do and it wouldn't even have phased me. I probably wouldn't even have bothered to remember if it had happened. It would have been just part of the daily routine there so I would have——

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever engage in that sort of thing?

Mr. Thornley. No; I never had guts enough to stand up and tell an officer he didn't know what he was talking about. Behind his back I might tell somebody that such-and-such officer didn't know what he was talking about, but I was never quite that brash—in that particular respect, anyway.

Mr. Jenner. What were your impressions on Oswald being interested in music?

Mr. Thornley. Not being interested in music myself particularly——

Mr. Jenner. I take it you had none; that is, any impressions as to his interests?

Mr. Thornley. No, therefore, I had none; correct.

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever play chess with him?

Mr. Thornley. No.