Mrs. Gibson. It must have been at least two or three, no more than that.

Mr. Jenner. Over that 3½ month period, the Oswalds were in your home no more than two or three times that is on visits, one or the other of them?

Mrs. Gibson. No; he was. She was only there one other time to visit. He popped in and out frequently. She was in Fort Worth at the time, and I didn't see her.

Mr. Jenner. Going back to this following or second day of Marina's visit in August, I take it your stepmother picked her up and took her to the dentist on the second day as well?

Mrs. Gibson. That is correct.

Mr. Jenner. Did she return to Fort Worth that day?

Mrs. Gibson. I think she took a bus that afternoon to Fort Worth.

Mr. Jenner. Did she go to the bus station by herself or was she taken?

Mrs. Gibson. My stepmother took her.

Mr. Jenner. Did you learn where the Oswalds were living or staying at that time? That is, is this the first occasion that you met them?