Mrs. Gibson. Not too much during the day but after she saw the apartment she was very unhappy with it and they were arguing very much when we left.

Mr. Jenner. Was it your impression she had not seen it?

Mrs. Gibson. No; I don't believe she had; no.

Mr. Jenner. What was your impression of the apartment?

Mrs. Gibson. It was a hole. It was terrible, very dirty, very badly kept, really quite a slum. It had possibilities to be fixed up. It was large, quite large, built very strangely, little rooms here and there, lots of doors, lots of windows. The floor had big bumps in it, you know. It was like the building had shifted and you walked up hill, you know, to get from one side of the room to the other. It was not a nice place; no.

Mr. Jenner. Was it a brick structure, wooden?

Mrs. Gibson. It was brick outside, dark red brick. It was a small apartment building. I think two stories, overrun with weeds and garbage and people.

Mr. Jenner. Did you visit the Oswald's in that apartment thereafter?

Mrs. Gibson. No.

Mr. Jenner. Do you know whether your husband did?