Mr. Jenner. Had you and your father had some difficulty, some spats between the two of you along about this time?

Mrs. Gibson. No; we had been spatting all our life.

Mr. Jenner. I mean were you on speaking terms?

Mrs. Gibson. Yes; I'd say so.

Mr. Jenner. Do you recall at least one occasion when you picked up Oswald in front of the YMCA?

Mrs. Gibson. No; I don't.

Mr. Jenner. That your husband Gary would go over and pick him up?

Mrs. Gibson. I guess so.

Mr. Jenner. Bring him to your apartment?

Mrs. Gibson. I guess so, or he'd walk. I don't know. I don't believe Gary picked him up there. I believe he walked or took the bus.