Mr. Jenner. He said this to you?

Mr. Stuckey. Yes; in a jocular way.

Mr. Jenner. Where did this take place, on the telephone?

Mr. Stuckey. On the telephone; yes.

This was Monday or Tuesday, the 19th or the 20th of August, whenever it was that I had informed him of the show.

Mr. Jenner. Had he called you?

Mr. Stuckey. Yes; I gave him my office number so he called me at a prearranged time. He was very punctual, very punctual. He was always there on time, all those calls came on time. So I informed him about this debate show and he agreed. He said he thought that would be interesting.

Then the next time I see him is on the afternoon of August 21, Wednesday. I believe this was about 5:30.

Mr. Jenner. Was this to be a preliminary session also?

Mr. Stuckey. Yes—well, no; this was to be a live program. The Conversation Carte Blanche panel show is not to be prerecorded as the other one was.