Mr. Ryder. I don't even remember.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember discussing that point with Agent Horton?
Mr. Ryder. Yeah; we talked maybe we did charge $1.50 for the boresighting. As a matter of fact, I did because $6—or was it $4.50—I don't even remember that now.
Mr. Liebeler. You don't now remember whether the ticket was for $4.50 or $6?
Mr. Ryder. That's right, right now, I don't. It seems like to me it was for $4.50 for drill, tapping, and bore sighting. I believe it was for $4.50. In other words, I didn't charge for boresighting.
Mr. Liebeler. What do you do when you bore sight a rifle?
Mr. Ryder. Well, I use a sight-a-line. That's actually three different things but, what it is, it's an optic deal made by this manufacturing company that has a little cross hair in it just like a scope. It lays like such instead of like such [illustrating]. By taking a little sprig that fits different caliber rifles, fits in the rifle, you look through the scope and line the four cross hairs together to the center point of the cross hairs. It doesn't zero a gun by any means. It just gets you—oh, better where you can tell where you're hitting.
Mr. Liebeler. So, you can't really zero a gun any by just boresighting it?
Mr. Ryder. No; actually, it lines your bore and your sight at one point or close to one point where you can get your point from there without wasting ammunition. If I were to anchor a barrel or piece of pipe in a vise and pick out a spot over there on that building [indicating] somewhere; say, draw a circle and I line this with that and aline the sight, I have a scope or open sight either one, over to that point, I go to shoot at it offhand and there's a different way I hold that gun. This breaks it down to a fine deal where you understand the difference between boresighting and zero. If you been in the army, you know the difference. In other words, this method I was just describing say, to the building, is the way we use the bore sight.
Mr. Liebeler. But now you have a little machine that does that?