Mr. Ryder. No, sir; I don't know them.
Mr. Liebeler. Are you aware of the fact that just down Irving Boulevard from the Irving Sports Shop, a block and a half or so west, there used to be another gunshop where a man carried guns?
Mr. Ryder. Well, there was a little place down there where he handled guns—I don't know whether—if he was able to work on them or not, but it was about two blocks down the street or a block and a half or something like that.
Mr. Liebeler. Toward the west?
Mr. Ryder. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. And do you know that there used to be a used furniture shop that was there?
Mr. Ryder. Yes; it's still there.
Mr. Liebeler. But you didn't know the people that ran it?
Mr. Ryder. No; I didn't.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, Mr. Schmidt is sitting out here in the front office and I'm going to ask him to come in and have you two gentlemen discuss this problem, see if there is some way we can resolve this story on this telephone conversation.