Mr. Pic. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Tell me about that?

Mr. Pic. I would say we were in the middle classes while we lived on Alvez.

Mr. Jenner. While your father was alive?

Mr. Pic. And, being we moved to Bartholomew, and being in orphan homes, I think we went to the upper lower class, one class structure dropped, two class structures dropped, something like that.

Mr. Jenner. Were you conscious of that even as a 10-year-old?

Mr. Pic. Well, I realized that we weren't living as good as we used to, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Go ahead.

Mr. Pic. Well, once we were placed in an orphan home, and we were with our own kind, so to speak. I had no feelings whatsoever. I mean, we enjoyed that place. They were rather strict but we enjoyed it. We had quite a bit of freedom even though they were strict. We would sneak out of the place at night and do all kinds of childish things. But Robert and I enjoyed it.

Mr. Jenner. I am thinking more of your relations with your mother. Was her personality affected by the death of your stepfather?