Mr. Pic. Okay.

Mr. Jenner. Give times as best you can.

Mr. Pic. If you can date for me when I had my appendix out I can practically date for you Mr. Ekdahl's——

Mr. Jenner. I am afraid I can't. Were you at Bethlehem Orphanage?

Mr. Pic. Yes; I was at Bethlehem so it would be either 1943 or 1944, and I am sure she was at Pittsburgh at that time.

Mr. Jenner. Pittsburgh Plate?

Mr. Pic. Right. And it was right after I had my appendix out that he appeared on the scene. And she visited us more often when she was going with him.

Mr. Jenner. And she brought him with her, did she?

Mr. Pic. Yes; he had the car.

Mr. Jenner. By the way, did your mother have an automobile during this period following your stepfather's death?