Mr. Liebeler. He told you he talked to Ryder?

Mr. Greener. Ryder told me he hadn't.

Mr. Liebeler. Ryder told you the reporter had not talked to him?

Mr. Greener. Had not talked to him.

Mr. Liebeler. Did the reporter tell you when he had talked to Ryder?

Mr. Greener. He told me that he talked to him earlier in the morning. I don't know when that was. I am inclined to believe, to the best of my knowledge, it was Thanksgiving Day. Now I could be wrong on that. My recollection is that this story first came out—I am thinking it came out on Thanksgiving Day.

Mr. Liebeler. I have here a clipping from the New York Times of November 29, 1963, which appears to be one of the first times that this story was released in the New York papers at any rate, November 29, 1963.

Mr. Greener. What was Thanksgiving Day?

Mr. Liebeler. Thanksgiving Day was on a Thursday, was it not?

Mr. Greener. Yes.