Mrs. Whitworth. I knew that it was at that time.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you that it was?

Mrs. Whitworth. That it was?

Mr. Liebeler. Yes.

Mrs. Whitworth. No; he didn't tell me.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he mention guns?

Mrs. Whitworth. We didn't talk about it. We didn't talk about it—when I told him I didn't have the gunsmith, that he had moved, that he was no longer there and when I told him we no longer had a gunsmith we didn't talk about what he wanted any more.

Mr. McKenzie. To the best of your recollection, and that's based on your conversation with Mrs. Hunter, the part that he asked for was a plunger?

Mrs. Whitworth. Well, to the best of my recollection it was, but I wouldn't say definitely that he asked for a plunger.

Mr. McKenzie. Do you recognize that a plunger is a part of a gun?