Mrs. Whitworth. He still lives in Irving.

Mr. McKenzie. Had you had any previous experience with guns?

Mrs. Whitworth. Other than just seeing guns in that little corner of the building, it seems like, and you know, hearing conversations on guns, but I knew nothing about guns.

Mr. McKenzie. Well, did you know anything about the various nomenclature or the various parts of a gun?

Mrs. Whitworth. No; I didn't.

Mr. McKenzie. But you did recognize that a plunger was a part of a gun when this man came in?

Mrs. Whitworth. Well, in the way that he asked for it, I knew that it was a gun part that he wanted because I didn't have it.

Mr. McKenzie. In what way did he ask for it, explain what you mean by that?

Mrs. Whitworth. As well as I can remember, I told him we didn't have a gunsmith and he asked for this part and I don't remember really just what he asked for, but whatever it was, it led me to know that he wanted a gunsmith, which we didn't have.

Mr. McKenzie. Were you in the front of the store when he came in?