Mr. Miller. No.

Mr. Griffin. How did you know to walk over there?

Mr. Miller. I didn't.

Mr. Griffin. Why did you happen to walk there?

Mr. Miller. There was no particular reason.

Mr. Griffin. About how long was this before Lee Harvey Oswald came down?

Mr. Miller. I don't recall how long. It would be hard to estimate it. It could have been 10 minutes or it could have been longer.

Mr. Griffin. I have got another witness out here, Mr. Ward, and I think maybe it might be well to take a break here a second. I want to talk to this man.

(Discussion off of the record.)

Mr. Griffin. Mr. Miller and I have been talking here for a few minutes off of the record about some of the events prior to his going down into the basement.