Mr. Griffin. How deep were they in the Main Street ramp, by that time?

Mr. Newman. I would guess two or three, but that's just a guess.

Mr. Griffin. Now, does that include policemen, also?

Mr. Newman. You mean the number of people?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Newman. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Would you say the total number of people was two or three deep there?

Mr. Newman. Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin. Was it solid across from this wall to the railing?

Mr. Newman. Well, I couldn't see that much detail.