Mr. Griffin. All right. You have indicated that this car you saw move out, moved out 5 or 10 minutes before the shooting. Now, I know it's awful difficult, we have been here talking, and I frankly haven't any idea how long we have talked. Maybe it is easier to pinpoint the movement of that car in terms of when you heard that pop bottle?
Mr. Newman. All I know, it was sometime between the bottle and the shooting. I would say I can't pinpoint it even within 10 minutes, but I do know it was a short time.
Mr. Griffin. Okay. I will mark this, "Exhibit, Dallas, Texas, W. J. Newman," no; I take that back. I will mark it, but I think it best that we go through this whole thing chronologically. W. J. Newman, 3-25-64, Exhibit 5038. Now, what did you do after the shot was fired?
Mr. Newman. As soon as I heard the shot fired, I ran up into this place [indicating].
Mr. Griffin. I don't think we need to mark it. You stood at the base of the garage ramp?
Mr. Newman. That's right.
Mr. Griffin. What did you do at that point?
Mr. Newman. Well, this officer came up to about—well, opposite me——
Mr. Griffin. To make this, maybe, a little easier, let's take the pencil and you mark where you went to with pencil, and draw a line to it, and then mark where this other fellow went. Why don't you put an arrow, so we know which direction we are moving?
Mr. Newman. (Indicating).