Mr. Griffin. All right. That was a plain clothes officer, I think you said.

Mr. Newman. I think we stopped him. He showed us his identification and he went on up the ramp. Not more than, oh, 2 or 3 minutes after that, I assume they decided to let these men go where they wanted to. I don't know that for a fact, but at any rate I was sent out on the corner of Main and Harwood to direct traffic. There were quite a few police units coming in from different parts of town.

Mr. Griffin. How long did you remain out on the corner of Main and Harwood?

Mr. Newman. Not over 10 minutes. A motorcycle officer relieved me.

Mr. Griffin. Then what did you do?

Mr. Newman. Then I returned to the assembly room and I was sent out to Parkland.

Mr. Griffin. About what time did you arrive out at Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Newman. I don't know exactly. From what happened, I would say 12:15 to 12:30, but that's just an approximation.

Mr. Griffin. How long did you remain out there?

Mr. Newman. I was there until about 4:30 in the afternoon.