Mr. Vaughn. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. He is a former policeman?
Mr. Vaughn. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And you recognized him as such?
Mr. Hubert. And he was in civilian clothes?
Mr. Vaughn. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. You know that little concrete or stone projection out into the sidewalk?
Mr. Vaughn. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. I think that they have two of those, one on each side of the ramp and they extend about 5 or 6 feet into the sidewalk from the side of the building toward the curb—is it correct to say that they are about 12 inches high?