Mr. Hubert. Did you talk to Ruby then?

Mr. Archer. Yes, sir; we did.

Mr. Hubert. What did he say?

Mr. Archer. During—after we—as I began searching him, making the general search of him, as we were standing there I said—I had seen Oswald on the floor in the jail office after he had been brought in there and I looked at him, and to me he looked like he was dead. Of course, I couldn't say he was dead, but I am saying that to me he looked like he was dead, and I said to Ruby at that time, "Jack I think you killed him," and he just looked at me right straight in the eye and said, "Well, I intended to shoot him three times."

Mr. Hubert. Did you know Jack Ruby?

Mr. Archer. No, sir; I didn't know him. I wouldn't recognize the man if I saw him on the street. I do—I knew of him. I had heard the name before. I did have—I did recollect that he had been handled by the department, but I never arrested him, and I had never seen him.

Mr. Hubert. But, you knew the name was Jack Ruby, though?

Mr. Archer. Sir?

Mr. Hubert. You knew the name was Jack Ruby, though?

Mr. Archer. I didn't know the name was Jack Ruby other than he told me his name was Jack Ruby.