Mr. Clardy. At the time, I didn't see anybody back up in here anywhere.
Mr. Hubert. That is to say, you didn't see anybody——
Mr. Clardy. I didn't see anybody back as far as this [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. Now, the second line which you have described, "as far as this," is—I'm going to mark that line and put it, for purposes of identification I'm marking it as a line designated by "1" and "2." Both numerals being encircled. I should like you to consider the area which is bounded by these two lines, "XY," and "1, 2," and the rail and at the wall is area A. Tell me how many people you think were in area A?
Mr. Clardy. In this area here? I——
Mr. Hubert. In area A, which has been designated by you as being encompassed between line "X" and "1," that being a curving line. Line "1,"—point "1" in a point to point "2" in a circle, the rail and the wall——
Mr. Clardy. I'd say there was approximately four or five people up and down here [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. You are describing with the pencil——
Mr. Clardy. Where the circle is down across here [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. You are describing with the pencil about four or five people along the rail lining of the basement side of the rail, is that correct?