Mr. Clardy. W. J.? That is a detective in the juvenile bureau?
Mr. Hubert. Well, I don't know. I can't testify. I am not—well, that's all right.
Mr. Clardy. Sir, there was a detective, I am pretty sure the one you are talking about. I don't know him real well?
Mr. Hubert. That's all right.
Mr. Clardy. I don't know whether it was Harrison that was along in here [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. Now, would you make a circle and state where you think "Blackie" Harrison was at the time of the shooting?
Mr. Clardy. Time I saw Detective Harrison, to the best of my knowledge, he was along in there [indicating].
Mr. Hubert. I am marking that circle by putting "Position of 'Blackie' Harrison at time of shooting," is that correct or at the time you saw him?
Mr. Clardy. At the time I checked, looked over the basement, which would have been approximately 3 minutes, 2 or 3 minutes before the shooting.
Mr. Hubert. You saw him 2 or 3 minutes prior to the shooting. Now, I'll ask you to check that again, that circle that I have designated by the legend, "position of 'Blackie' Harrison at the time Clardy saw him 2 or 3 minutes prior to the shooting." Is that approximately the position of Mr. Harrison at the time designated?