Mr. Dean. No one in particular. I just went up to see what was going on on the third floor. This is the first time I had been to the third floor. There were numerous cameras there, lot of cables. Just as you get off the elevator there was a lot of cameras.

Mr. Griffin. What time would you estimate that you were up on the third floor?

Mr. Dean. Probably 8 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin. Did you go up to the third floor again during the morning; that is between that time and the time that Oswald was shot, did you have occasion to go back to the third floor?

Mr. Dean. I believe I did, but for no specific purpose.

Mr. Griffin. Well, if you can separate out the different times that you might have been up there, I want to know as best you recall whether there were news people up there on the third floor when you went up this first time, around—what did you say, 8 o'clock?

Mr. Dean. Yes. Were there news people up there?

Mr. Griffin. Did you see newspaper people up there at that time?

Mr. Dean. Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall whether the TV cameras were manned at that time?