Mr. Dean. No, sir. I didn't. I didn't identify the man. They asked me did I recognize this man. I said "Yes." And they asked me could I tell them who he was, and I said I had rather not, and I did not identify him as Ruby. I identified him as a businessman in the city of Dallas, but I did tell them that I recognized the man by sight.

Mr. Griffin. Now, when you got up on the third floor, where did you see Chief Curry?

Mr. Dean. Just as I got off of the elevator.

Mr. Griffin. And did you ask him to discuss this problem with you?

Mr. Dean. No, sir. He immediately introduced—said, "This is Mr. Forrest V. Sorrels, head of the Secret Service in Dallas, and take my keys and take him to the fifth floor to interview Ruby."

Mr. Griffin. You got up to the fifth floor, who was with Ruby?

Mr. Dean. Detective Archer, D. R. Archer, Detective T. D. McMillon and Detective B. S. Clardy is the three, and that's the only three I can recall standing there. I think that was all that was with him.

Mr. Griffin. Was there a jailer there?

Mr. Dean. Not standing there necessarily by him. There, of course, are jailers all over the floor, and you know, there were—not particularly around him though. The only ones I can recall standing close to Ruby was those three detectives.

Mr. Griffin. What state of dress or undress was Ruby in at that time?