Mr. Dean. Oh, 10 minutes.

Mr. Griffin. Now, do you remember anything that Sorrels learned from Ruby?

Mr. Dean. Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us what that was?

Mr. Dean. Yes. He asked him what possessed him to do it. Of course, I have testified to all this in court. And he said that he was—had been despondent over the assassination of the President, also Officer Tippit, and that he was a very emotional man, and that out of grief for both these people, was one of the motivations, and that he couldn't see any reason for a long and lengthy trial, even though he believed in due process of law.

Mr. Griffin. Did he talk with Sorrels at all at that time about how he got into the basement?

Mr. Dean. No, sir. I asked him—Sorrels didn't ask any questions relative to that. I did.

Mr. Griffin. How long after Sorrels finished talking with Ruby did you ask that question?

Mr. Dean. Immediately. After Mr. Sorrels said, "Okay. Thank you." And I don't recall whether Mr. Sorrels stayed there or whether he walked off.

Mr. Griffin. Who else was present when you asked Ruby that question?