Mr. Dean. Four minutes and three seconds, I think.

Mr. Griffin. Is this the name of the operator that put the call through, Bernice Williamson?

Mr. Dean. She was the Victoria operator.

Mr. Griffin. Did you get the name of the city operator?

Mr. Dean. The city operator was Patsy. I don't know her last name. Patsy. She is the night operator at city hall.

Mr. Griffin. Would you indicate that Patsy handled that? Did Patsy listen in on the call?

Mr. Dean. Yes [indicating].

Mr. Griffin. And have you talked with her about this since?

Mr. Dean. No, sir; she called back and gave me the time and charges on it.

Mr. Griffin. And is there a record of that in the police department?