Chief Batchelor. Well, we were commenting about that camera and that they were going to have to move it, and we were going to have to man that basement. But at the moment, plans hadn't jelled as to when we would move him. Actually, back in our minds, I suppose, was the idea that when the time came, that the sheriff's department would probably move him, because this is customary in moving a prisoner. They normally come down and get the prisoner.

Mr. Griffin. Did you discuss with Chief Stevenson anywhere along the way upstairs this phone call which you received from Mr. Talbert earlier in the morning?

Chief Batchelor. Yes; I think I mentioned that to him.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember anything about that conversation?

Chief Batchelor. Not anything especially.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall whether he knew or Stevenson knew at the time you saw him down in the basement that there had been such a threat?

Chief Batchelor. I believe he did. I think someone from one of his bureaus had called him, if I remember right. It was rather common knowledge that a call like that had been received.

Mr. Griffin. As you walked to the elevator in the basement, do you recall whether or not there were any people in the basement?

Chief Batchelor. No; I don't remember anybody except those people in the jail office.

Mr. Griffin. The people in the jail office were employees of the jail?