Mr. Hubert. Now, actually, there was an automobile, as you say, backing up towards east, right?
Captain Jones. Well——
Mr. Hubert. But when they begin——
Captain Jones. It would have been backing north attempting to back north.
Mr. Hubert. Backing north, but with the front of the car facing south?
Captain Jones. Now then; from here is something that was a mystery to me for 2 weeks——
Mr. Hubert. You didn't answer the question.
Captain Jones. That's true. In the basement area, onto the ramp, heading out towards Commerce, and attempting to back toward north.
Mr. Hubert. Now, did you say there was something else?
Captain Jones. The police vehicle—car is ahead of me a little bit.