Mr. Hubert. At the time of the shooting, did you see him?
Captain Jones. Not at the moment of the shooting. I was looking out into the basement area, parking area.
Mr. Hubert. After the shooting, did you see him?
Captain Jones. I did; after he was in custody and on his feet and just prior to them taking him into the jail office.
Mr. Hubert. Did you recognize him then?
Captain Jones. At that time, after having someone say it was Jack Ruby, then I did recognize him as Jack Ruby.
Mr. Hubert. Did you hear him say anything?
Captain Jones. No, sir; in fact, I wasn't that close to him.
Mr. Hubert. Did you have anything more to do with Ruby? Did you see him after that?
Captain Jones. Can I continue on the chronological thing there? I don't believe I did see him——