Mr. Griffin. Had Fritz begun to question Oswald when Curry was on the telephone with Decker?

Chief Batchelor. I really don't know. Shortly after we made the decision, Curry went back to the office and they were questioning him.

Mr. Griffin. Now, when Curry and Decker talked on the telephone on this occasion, did Curry say anything about how Oswald would be moved?

Chief Batchelor. Well, I think he called him back later and told him how after we had talked, because we hadn't made the decision to use an armored car to move him, armored truck, until after we had determined that he wasn't going to move him and it was going to be our job. Then we decided to discuss the armored car.

Mr. Griffin. Did Chief Curry have any discussion with Decker in this first telephone conversation about the route that would be followed in moving Oswald?

Chief Batchelor. I don't think so, because I am sure we didn't know at that moment just exactly what we would do. He went back and talked to Fritz about the advisability of this later, and we discussed it, and Stevenson came up and discussed it, and our plan was to take him down Elm Street originally. We would go out of the basement to Commerce, Commerce to Central Expressway, north on Central to Elm, and then west on Elm to Houston, and then go back east to the jail entrance door of the county jail and come in. This was our original plan.

Mr. Griffin. In this first telephone conversation with Decker was Stevenson present in Curry's office?

Chief Batchelor. I don't believe he was. I know he wasn't when we started. He may have walked in there while I was talking to him, but I believe Curry and I was the only ones present.

Mr. Griffin. When Curry finished talking with Decker and he hung up the phone, did he say anything to you?

Chief Batchelor. Yes; he said obviously Decker wants us to move him.