Mr. Stevenson. Yes; I saw the officers, where they were distributed.

Mr. Hubert. Would you state then for the record just what you saw, what you stated you considered to be good security? And it might be that you will want to use that chart to indicate what you mean.

Mr. Stevenson. He had placed officers—he had not stationed them definitely, but he had officers there checking everybody that came into the basement. He had officers down there that searched the entire basement area, searching cars, on top of the heat conduits, and so forth. He had officers on the ramp up here.

Mr. Hubert. Wait a minute, you say, "up here"?

Mr. Stevenson. At the top of the Commerce Street ramp.

Mr. Hubert. How many officers did he have there?

Mr. Stevenson. I don't know just how many. He had some reserve and regular officers. And Captain Arnett advised us, I believe it was on this trip, that he had been instructed by Captain Talbert to move all of the people to the southside of Commerce Street, permit none of them to congregate on the city hall or Police and Courts Building side of Commerce, and that he had done that. We observed that the crowd was across the street. He had an officer stationed up here at the top of the Main Street ramp.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know that officer's name?

Mr. Stevenson. Vaughn, I believe it was.

Mr. Hubert. I wonder if you would write his name there in your own handwriting.