Mr. Stevenson. Yes; in the basement area.
Mr. Hubert. So at that time you think there were approximately, well, twice the number of people that you have since described as were in the Main ramp and the basement area, roughly about a hundred people?
Mr. Stevenson. At that time there might not have been, because that was some 40 or 50 minutes before the prisoner was transferred.
Mr. Hubert. Were there people upstairs or elsewhere?
Mr. Stevenson. Some of them were on the third floor. Some of them were on the first floor. Now just where they all were, Mr. Hubert, prior to the time the transfer was actually made, I don't know, but about 10:30, I would say that there was not that many down there at that time.
Mr. Hubert. When you said the first floor, you meant the first floor of the police and courts—of the police department?
Mr. Stevenson. Of the police and courts building; yes.
Mr. Hubert. You have already testified concerning the relation of what you call the courts?
Mr. Stevenson. The police and courts building.
Mr. Hubert. To the municipal building or the city hall?