Mr. Stevenson. Not by name; no, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know that there were two reserve officers in the basement area, one of them near the elevators and one of them near the——

Mr. Stevenson. This is a driveway into the parking area.

Mr. Hubert. The driveway into the parking area proper?

Mr. Stevenson. To my own knowledge, no, sir; I don't. I did not go back to the elevators over here to check on that. My officers were in this general area in here.

Mr. Hubert. That is to say, you are indicating from the intersection of the jail corridor and the ramp at the basement?

Mr. Stevenson. Directly out in front of the jail office entrance, and in this area in here, and up this way and back here.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know anything about the removal of those two men from the positions indicated?

Mr. Stevenson. No, sir; I do not.

Mr. Hubert. Now, did you observe the shooting?