Mr. Hubert. You mean with Ruby?
Mr. Stevenson. I mean with Ruby, pardon me. With Ruby up to the jail office.
Captain King advised me when I came back down that they had stripped Ruby of his clothing, searched him to see that he had nothing on him with which he could harm himself or harm anyone else, and in about, oh, I would say possibly 10 minutes after he was taken upstairs, Secret Service Agent Forrest Sorrels did go up and talk with him, and Sergeant Dean, I believe it was, took him up there.
Now this was told to me by Sergeant Dean, that Mr. Sorrels did request to go up and talk to him, and he did take him up there.
Mr. Hubert. Did you observe Ruby before he was stripped of his clothing?
Mr. Stevenson. Yes; I observed him in the jail office after he had been picked up, after he had shot Oswald.
He had been picked up from just outside the jail office door near the ramp and was taken into the jail office, and he was standing in the jail office with the detectives holding him, when I walked in there.
Mr. Hubert. Did you observe any kind of press pass on his person?
Mr. Stevenson. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Did you know Ruby prior to that time?