Mr. Hubert. I would like you to describe that for the record—that is, what were the conditions of those areas particularly with reference to congestion of people?

Captain Talbert. Across from "Area A," there was complete double line and in some instances triple line of men. That was men with cameras and those without. Just the reporters who had no cameras, and in "Area B," in the center of "Area B" I——

Mr. Hubert. Before you leave "Area A," would you say that the men were shoulder to shoulder?

Captain Talbert. Oh, more than that. Crammed in there. Jammed——

Mr. Hubert. Touching each other?

Captain Talbert. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. And about three ranks back toward Main Street?

Captain Talbert. That is my impression, yes, sir, about three ranks back.

Mr. Hubert. Describe "Area B," then?

Captain Talbert. And "Area B," you had a railing as indicated here by a dotted line. In front of that railing you had at least two or—probably three ranks of people all the way down to the turnoff area, which is the beginning of "Area C." In the center of "Area D," there were two fixed cameras.