Captain Talbert. I saw his face. That I recognized, but I didn't recognize him as "Ruby." I asked a question, and may I say this in front of the young lady? I have to apologize. Do you want it verbatim?
Mr. Hubert. Yes. I'm afraid so.
Captain Talbert. I asked the question—I said, "Who is this son-of-a-bitch?" And he was saying, "I'm Jack Ruby. Everybody knows me. I'm Jack Ruby." At the same time another officer, or perhaps to answer that—"That's Jack Ruby, he operates the Carousel Club."
Mr. Hubert. That was when you first recognized him?
Captain Talbert. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. As being someone that you knew?
Captain Talbert. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. You had not seen him prior to that time on that, day, to your knowledge?
Captain Talbert. No, sir, nor for 2 years prior to that, to my knowledge. Approximately 2 years prior to that I was having breakfast at the Pancake House at the Ramada Inn with other officers when a man going out—we were sitting down and the man was going out and passed by and stopped. Was—and he was obtrusively friendly with the other officer, one of them he knew. He knew Lieutenant Pierce who was with me, and Lieutenant Pierce introduced me to him, and from that point until the point where he was on the floor at the jail office, I don't recall having seen him, and the only reason that I remember the Pancake incident, it was after the incident I was reminded of the incident by Lieutenant Pierce. I don't recall of having met him at any time since the old days of his operation at the Silver Spur.
Mr. Hubert. Did you talk to him, or see him after that?