Captain Talbert. As I recall now, Lieutenant Pierce told me that from the time he left the basement until the time—and from the time he left the basement ramp and the time he reached the Commerce Street ramp, the shooting had occurred, and that time lapse would be a minute and three quarters, or 2 minutes at the most.
Mr. Hubert. Do you recall whether Pierce ever talked to you about a 5-minute interval?
Captain Talbert. The 5-minute interval, I can't recall; no, sir. I don't recall that, but if we want to leave it in here it could have been from the time—it would have been right from the time he left the homicide office until the time of the shooting. I don't recall the 5-minute interval. Now, at the time, it may have happened, but my memory now is—does not bring it back.
Mr. Hubert. Well, your correction really——
Captain Talbert. Is incorrect?
Mr. Hubert. Is, in a way, incorrect, because you have corrected to refer to a 5-minute interval and you now tell me that you have no recollection of talking about a 5-minute lapse at all.
Captain Talbert. Right, sir. I am merely trying to account for the minutes there in my own——
Mr. Hubert. But you do not recollect Pierce telling you anything about 5 minutes at all?
Captain Talbert. I can recall the route he took and where he stopped, but I can't recall the 5 minutes entering into it at all, and——
Mr. Hubert. All right; any further corrections or observations?