Chief Batchelor. (marking). He was there before then, but I am talking about when I may have seen him there.

Mr. Griffin. Now, Chief, after you left the basement area on this first trip, where did you go?

Chief Batchelor. We went back upstairs to the office.

Mr. Griffin. Did Chief Stevenson go back up with you?

Chief Batchelor. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. When you got back up on the third floor, were there news media personnel on the third floor?

Chief Batchelor. There were some up there.

Mr. Griffin. I take it, it was not what you consider a crowded condition.

Chief Batchelor. No.

Mr. Griffin. Were there television cameras still there?