Chief Batchelor. I couldn't tell. All the time that I remember, they had these little viewers in the back of the thing and you could see through them and see what was going on through them, look through the camera. Whether they were shooting footage, there wasn't anything to shoot that morning. It was pretty quiet.
Mr. Griffin. Now, the second trip when you came back upstairs after your first trip downstairs, where did you go?
Chief Batchelor. After the first trip, I came back up to again get in touch with Mr. Stevenson and tell him.
Mr. Griffin. Fleming?
Chief Batchelor. Fleming, I mean, and tell him what the height of that thing was. Then he told me, well, I will just send both trucks down there and you can take the one you want.
Mr. Griffin. This second phone call, was Mr. Fleming at home?
Chief Batchelor. Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin. Do you know whether Fleming had been contacted by anyone in your office or Decker's office or anybody else prior to your first phone call to him?
Chief Batchelor. I would think not. He couldn't, because this was his first knowledge of it.
Mr. Griffin. Could you tell us what else you said to him? What else this conversation involved?